Monday, September 28, 2009

Fun with theodicys

First off, before I begin, I am not conceding the gratuitous POE is a problem. Despite the incompetent atheists assertion to the contrary, not only do I know what the gratuitous POE is, I know how to effectively deal with it as well. The best and most logical response to the gratuitous evil POE is they are begging the question the evil is gratuitous, since our ignorance does not = lack of reasons for God. It basically amounts to someone thinking of an evil scenario and saying it is gratuitous. In any case, it is often fun to play around with theodicys.

The theodicy of constant principles in response to the gratuitous problem of evil.

God created the universe with constant principles and laws. Water always boils at temperature X it freezes at temperature Y etc. etc. blah blah blah you get the point, anthropic principle ad nauseam. At this point and in this respect specifically, God stepped back and let his machine do what it is designed to do. Now this machine will undoubtedly kill people and cause suffering in its operation, but the death and suffering of some people and animals is insignificant to the amount of good caused by things like constant gravity laws and freezing temperatures for organ transplants. The suffering of a deer burning to death in the woods from a forest fire caused by a lightning strike pales in comparison when those very things that created that scenario helps get nitrogen to the grown to aid plant growth(lightning) the temperature that wood ignites has helped people cook their food and keep warm during winters. No one calls the inventor of the pencil evil because someone died as the result of being stabbed with a pencil. The question that follows would be "God has the power to stop all of the evil that his machine would be responsible for, unlike the inventor of the pencil, so why doesn't he?," and the obvious answer would be because then the laws wouldn't be constant. Science would be nonexistent since it depends upon the laws being the same every single time, our ability to predict, plan, or do anything for ourselves would be non existent as well. I might want to light a fire to cook, but find I cannot because someone around me might get burned to death or the stove might blow up. I might want to go for a swim in the beach but cannot for the suns light has been extinguished because it has caused wild fires in california, etc. etc. I am sure you get the point.